Episode 459: Jasmine Holmes on Allowing Shame to Exist but Not Lead, Dealing with Shame in Parenting, and Hope Chests

I can’t wait for you to hear this episode. My new friend Jasmine Holmes is in the studio to talk all about what exactly shame is and the Gospel antidote for it. Jasmine’s Christ-centered and Gospel-driven book, Never Cast Out is truly one of the finest books on shame I’ve ever read. It is powerful, and impactful, and incredibly brave. Don’t miss Jasmine’s next book Crowned with Glory which comes out this September.

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